I have to say both. As humans, we gain our wealth of knowledge from our pasts and from our thoughts. Based on experience, I now know not to grab the electric fence wire or stick a key in the outlet. Based on my reasoning, I know my batch of cookies will not turn out if I do not add the flour or the eggs. Obviously, no one was born with an overwhelming amount of knowledge. As we grow, we learn the probable consequences of our actions through experience and the likely occurrences of other actions through reason. Even though our experiences accumulate as our ages increase, more of our knowledge as youngsters comes from our experiences. After licking a frozen metal pole, a child will know not to do it again. By continuing to develop and learn, we eventually can confirm some assumptions to be true through reasoning. In time, we figure out Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny are not real beings but rather figures of our imagination. Therefore, I conclude our knowledge from experience and our knowledge from reason become more balanced later in life.
I think that in general knowledge comes from experience. I am asking myself where does reason come from? The answer seems to be an accumulation of experiences past down from generation to generation which caused people to learn from mistakes and use reason to avoid failure from reoccurring. Yesterday in class Dr. Crozier mentioned 1st hand vs. 2nd hand experience and so on. This relates to this question because most people think of experience as first hand but knowledge comes from the extensive experience of others before us that we in turn learn about. Maybe you've heard someone use the phrase "not repeating the past". The past is experiences, and even the president resorts to the consequences of past actions to reason about the pros and cons of making a decision. Furthermore I think experiences are how we gain knowledge because they are what cause reasoning to exist in the first place.
I think we learn from both. Different people also seem to have different sources of knowledge. For example, some people seem to need to "learn things the hard way". This would indicate that said individuals gain knowledge through experience. Say a college student gets involved with cocaine.After the pain and shame he experienced during his battle against his personal addiction, he learned how harmful cocaine was to his life. He gained this knowledge through experience. At the same time, the younger sister of the reformed addict learned the dangers of cocaine, not through personal experience, but through the constant exposure to the toll the drugs took on her brother. She did not need to experience the addiction first hand to gain knowledge of its effects on a person. She used reason to gain knowledge.
I think it could be both, but from my experience I would say experience. I say this because you live and you learn. If you dont try something "within means" you will never know. Experience is what makes us grow as people.
I think that we do learn by both experience and reason, but I believe we learn, though, mostly by experience. I totally agree with Ashley when she asks where reason comes from. Most of our learn comes from experiences we go through. When we are young and have not developed a strong common sense, a very high percentage of our learning comes from our experiences. Not until we are older do we form reason which can help us think through with actions before we do them, but only then we can assume what will happen and not know the experience before we give it a shot.
I believe humans learn from experience. Its our nature. Like when we are scolded when we are young, we learned from experience whatever action we committed is wrong and we shouldn't do it again. This applies to certain foods, how would we know they were poisonous if someone didn't die from eating it first? Same with inventions, we learn from failures and successes. I think once we have experience, we put reason into why the first 20 lightbulbs didn't work, and why the working one works.
I also think we gain knowledge through both. I think reasoning comes first, then what we can't learn from reasoning we learn from experience. For example, if you are driving and you are lost, you try to use your reasoning of directions to get you there. Then, when you still can't find it, you take a random guess. If it is right, you know through experience for future reference. Some things, however, just plain happen without us thinking about it, such as accidently putting your hand on the hot stove. Obviously, no one would reason and consciously think to put their hand on the hot stove, it just happened. When you got burned you knew never to do that again. As Margo said though, no one was born with the ability to reason, so much of what we have learned has come from experience.
I have to agree with some of the comments above that we do gain our knowledge from experience. Without doing something first hand, one doesn't have any idea how to do it. I couldn't pick up a guitar and know exactly how to play every single chord. Yeah a person has enough common sense to know how to strum basically by just watching people play, but to actually know how to play a song comes from the learning and experience. Life always has some kind of bump in the road perhaps, to make you learn from it.
I think it's both, I mean obviously we gain knowledge by experience.We experience those things first hand and it would be nearly impossible not to learn anything from them. Also, we gain knowledge through reason because we understand that behind most things in life their is logic. For example,we know that a star is a glowing ball of light by reason, but not because we have seen it first hand.
I believe that we gain most of our knowledge through past experiences. Without the experiences of the past we wouldn't know what was real or what was fake. It would be like if someone had said a stove was hot would you know to believe them if you had never touched one before. This doesn't mean that some knowledge doesn't come from reason it just means that a vast majority comes from past experiences.
I believe we gain most of our knowledge through expaeriences as well. An example would be an older person who has been selling cars all his life vs. a new person who has just started his job. The more "experienced" who is older will be able to sell the car much easier because he will understand what people really want to hear while the younger empoyer with all the reasons in the world to buy the car may never sell the car because he simply doesnt understand how to deal with people. With time, the young car seller will have experience and be great. So experience over rules reasonings.
Sometimes I think history almost teaches us that we don't always learn much from history. I like the comment above "from my experience its experience" lol. That cracks me up (in a good way). Continue - these are all very good comments!
The next couple of classes should give you a better understanding of some of these things in terms of the thinking of Descartes, Locke, and Berkeley. This is not Victoria, but if she accidently agrees with Berkeley, then Berkeley could also be Burkle (that was attempted humor). We will learn about Hume thought.
Hope you all did well on the Ethics test. Any comments on the "moral delemma" I gave you?
I think we gain most of our knowledge through both experience and reason. Like if we rebuild a engine we learn and remember more about how it is put to gather and what the parts are for.The more we do it, the more we remember. However we also have reason, like when we are driving 60 down the high way we don't shift the transmission into reverse. Or take a match and light it around gasoline fumes, this is not from experience, but from reason.
I think that most of our knowledge is gained through experience but also with some reason. Everybody has experiences that they learn and grow from and these are what shape who they are and what they know. But then again reason does play a significant role because obviously some things you just know and understand how it should be. I think that knowledge is easier learned through experience because it is something that affects us directly at that moment.
I also agree that we gain knowledge from both. Every day we experience new things and learn from them. Our past is what makes us who we are and if we have never experienced anything what do we have to learn from-- that's where the reason comes in. I think we learn more from experience, but that is just my opinion!
I'm think we gain knowledge and reason through our and hopefully other peoples experiences. If we do something stupid we learn from it and hopefully that little voice of reason reminds us it was a bad decision if we ever think of trying it out again.
I think that we mostly gain knowledge by experience, but both are very important in human life. If we didnt learn anything from experience then we would do things that hurt us over and over again because we didnt learn from the first time that it hurt. Reason has a lot of the same effects as experience I would say.
I believe we gain knowledge through both reason and experience. I don't think you could have one without the other too. For an example when we are younger we learned many things through experience like when we burnt our hand for the first time. It was a painful experience and the next time we were near what ever burnt us we used our past expierence and reason to rember why not to touch the hot object.I also think we grow as people through our expierences, they can help us become who we are and lead us in a way towards what will be our future.
Both we gain knowledge in a number of ways in both. We learn stuff through experience like pain if we cut ourselves when we are slicing vegetables we are aware that it didn't feel good and that we don't want it to happen again. But at the same time not a lot of people have fallen from a 5 story building but we still know not to do it. A number of things we learn from reason is stuff in school. Math, science, reading all are things that are taught and we learn through reason.
We learn totally from experience. The ideas we have and our "reasoning" extends solely from our own experiences as well as the experiences of others. We think that we learn math through "reason" and that thing's like Newton's Laws are "rationalized", but didn't an apple fall on Newton's head? He experienced gravity and an idea came from this experience. I strongly believe that everything we know as "reasoning" such as math and science and all that jazz are just ideas spawned from the experiences we have.
DJ - I can guarantee someone has jumped off a 5-story building, i mean people were jumping off the world trade center buildings when they were coming down.. We learned from these people's experiences. Moral of that story? You jump off a big building, you die :S
I think a lot of our knowledge from experience, such as breaking your arm or getting burnt to getting your heart broke by you first boyfriend/girlfriend. That kind of knowledge you really don't know unless you experience it. But then again it is just as safe to say you get knowledge from reasoning because if you are standing on a bridge you are not going to jump off and it's probably not because you've jumped off a bridge before. It's probably because you figure: "Okay, if I jump off this bridge something severe is going to happen. I'm either going to die (which is more likely) or I will get severely injured which could lead to my death or leave me in a load of pain." So I think knowledge weighs itself out on whether it is experience or reason.
I think it's by both, mostly experience. Like touching a stove, you don't touch it because reason because you know you'll get hurt, but it can also be because of experience. We can knowledge from school by both experience and reason. The older we get, the more we learn.
I think we mostly learn from experience, but there is some reason to our knowledge. For instance, we've been taught about gravity and what would happen if we jump off a building, so we use logical reasoning to not do it because we know the outcome. On the other hand, as we grow older, the more knowledge we gain about all things in life. If we do something wrong and we have the consequences, we are most likely not going to do it again because we've already had that experience.
I think that we gain knowledge from both experience and reason, but I think we gain the most from knowledge because it will stick in our mind longer than listening to reason
I have to say both. As humans, we gain our wealth of knowledge from our pasts and from our thoughts. Based on experience, I now know not to grab the electric fence wire or stick a key in the outlet. Based on my reasoning, I know my batch of cookies will not turn out if I do not add the flour or the eggs. Obviously, no one was born with an overwhelming amount of knowledge. As we grow, we learn the probable consequences of our actions through experience and the likely occurrences of other actions through reason. Even though our experiences accumulate as our ages increase, more of our knowledge as youngsters comes from our experiences. After licking a frozen metal pole, a child will know not to do it again. By continuing to develop and learn, we eventually can confirm some assumptions to be true through reasoning. In time, we figure out Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny are not real beings but rather figures of our imagination. Therefore, I conclude our knowledge from experience and our knowledge from reason become more balanced later in life.
ReplyDeleteI think that in general knowledge comes from experience. I am asking myself where does reason come from? The answer seems to be an accumulation of experiences past down from generation to generation which caused people to learn from mistakes and use reason to avoid failure from reoccurring. Yesterday in class Dr. Crozier mentioned 1st hand vs. 2nd hand experience and so on. This relates to this question because most people think of experience as first hand but knowledge comes from the extensive experience of others before us that we in turn learn about. Maybe you've heard someone use the phrase "not repeating the past". The past is experiences, and even the president resorts to the consequences of past actions to reason about the pros and cons of making a decision. Furthermore I think experiences are how we gain knowledge because they are what cause reasoning to exist in the first place.
ReplyDeleteI think we learn from both. Different people also seem to have different sources of knowledge. For example, some people seem to need to "learn things the hard way". This would indicate that said individuals gain knowledge through experience. Say a college student gets involved with cocaine.After the pain and shame he experienced during his battle against his personal addiction, he learned how harmful cocaine was to his life. He gained this knowledge through experience. At the same time, the younger sister of the reformed addict learned the dangers of cocaine, not through personal experience, but through the constant exposure to the toll the drugs took on her brother. She did not need to experience the addiction first hand to gain knowledge of its effects on a person. She used reason to gain knowledge.
ReplyDeleteI think it could be both, but from my experience I would say experience. I say this because you live and you learn. If you dont try something "within means" you will never know. Experience is what makes us grow as people.
ReplyDeleteI think that we do learn by both experience and reason, but I believe we learn, though, mostly by experience. I totally agree with Ashley when she asks where reason comes from. Most of our learn comes from experiences we go through. When we are young and have not developed a strong common sense, a very high percentage of our learning comes from our experiences. Not until we are older do we form reason which can help us think through with actions before we do them, but only then we can assume what will happen and not know the experience before we give it a shot.
ReplyDeleteI believe humans learn from experience. Its our nature. Like when we are scolded when we are young, we learned from experience whatever action we committed is wrong and we shouldn't do it again. This applies to certain foods, how would we know they were poisonous if someone didn't die from eating it first? Same with inventions, we learn from failures and successes. I think once we have experience, we put reason into why the first 20 lightbulbs didn't work, and why the working one works.
ReplyDeleteI also think we gain knowledge through both. I think reasoning comes first, then what we can't learn from reasoning we learn from experience. For example, if you are driving and you are lost, you try to use your reasoning of directions to get you there. Then, when you still can't find it, you take a random guess. If it is right, you know through experience for future reference. Some things, however, just plain happen without us thinking about it, such as accidently putting your hand on the hot stove. Obviously, no one would reason and consciously think to put their hand on the hot stove, it just happened. When you got burned you knew never to do that again. As Margo said though, no one was born with the ability to reason, so much of what we have learned has come from experience.
ReplyDeleteI have to agree with some of the comments above that we do gain our knowledge from experience. Without doing something first hand, one doesn't have any idea how to do it. I couldn't pick up a guitar and know exactly how to play every single chord. Yeah a person has enough common sense to know how to strum basically by just watching people play, but to actually know how to play a song comes from the learning and experience. Life always has some kind of bump in the road perhaps, to make you learn from it.
ReplyDeleteI think it's both, I mean obviously we gain knowledge by experience.We experience those things first hand and it would be nearly impossible not to learn anything from them. Also, we gain knowledge through reason because we understand that behind most things in life their is logic. For example,we know that a star is a glowing ball of light by reason, but not because we have seen it first hand.
ReplyDeleteI believe that we gain most of our knowledge through past experiences. Without the experiences of the past we wouldn't know what was real or what was fake. It would be like if someone had said a stove was hot would you know to believe them if you had never touched one before. This doesn't mean that some knowledge doesn't come from reason it just means that a vast majority comes from past experiences.
ReplyDeleteI believe we gain most of our knowledge through expaeriences as well. An example would be an older person who has been selling cars all his life vs. a new person who has just started his job. The more "experienced" who is older will be able to sell the car much easier because he will understand what people really want to hear while the younger empoyer with all the reasons in the world to buy the car may never sell the car because he simply doesnt understand how to deal with people. With time, the young car seller will have experience and be great. So experience over rules reasonings.
ReplyDeleteSometimes I think history almost teaches us that we don't always learn much from history. I like the comment above "from my experience its experience" lol. That cracks me up (in a good way). Continue - these are all very good comments!
ReplyDeleteThe next couple of classes should give you a better understanding of some of these things in terms of the thinking of Descartes, Locke, and Berkeley. This is not Victoria, but if she accidently agrees with Berkeley, then Berkeley could also be Burkle (that was attempted humor). We will learn about Hume thought.
Hope you all did well on the Ethics test. Any comments on the "moral delemma" I gave you?
I think we gain most of our knowledge through both experience and reason. Like if we rebuild a engine we learn and remember more about how it is put to gather and what the parts are for.The more we do it, the more we remember. However we also have reason, like when we are driving 60 down the high way we don't shift the transmission into reverse. Or take a match and light it around gasoline fumes, this is not from experience, but from reason.
ReplyDeleteI think that most of our knowledge is gained through experience but also with some reason. Everybody has experiences that they learn and grow from and these are what shape who they are and what they know. But then again reason does play a significant role because obviously some things you just know and understand how it should be. I think that knowledge is easier learned through experience because it is something that affects us directly at that moment.
ReplyDeleteI also agree that we gain knowledge from both. Every day we experience new things and learn from them. Our past is what makes us who we are and if we have never experienced anything what do we have to learn from-- that's where the reason comes in. I think we learn more from experience, but that is just my opinion!
ReplyDeleteI'm think we gain knowledge and reason through our and hopefully other peoples experiences. If we do something stupid we learn from it and hopefully that little voice of reason reminds us it was a bad decision if we ever think of trying it out again.
ReplyDeleteI think that we mostly gain knowledge by experience, but both are very important in human life. If we didnt learn anything from experience then we would do things that hurt us over and over again because we didnt learn from the first time that it hurt. Reason has a lot of the same effects as experience I would say.
ReplyDeleteI believe we gain knowledge through both reason and experience. I don't think you could have one without the other too. For an example when we are younger we learned many things through experience like when we burnt our hand for the first time. It was a painful experience and the next time we were near what ever burnt us we used our past expierence and reason to rember why not to touch the hot object.I also think we grow as people through our expierences, they can help us become who we are and lead us in a way towards what will be our future.
ReplyDeleteBoth we gain knowledge in a number of ways in both. We learn stuff through experience like pain if we cut ourselves when we are slicing vegetables we are aware that it didn't feel good and that we don't want it to happen again. But at the same time not a lot of people have fallen from a 5 story building but we still know not to do it. A number of things we learn from reason is stuff in school. Math, science, reading all are things that are taught and we learn through reason.
ReplyDeleteWe learn totally from experience. The ideas we have and our "reasoning" extends solely from our own experiences as well as the experiences of others. We think that we learn math through "reason" and that thing's like Newton's Laws are "rationalized", but didn't an apple fall on Newton's head? He experienced gravity and an idea came from this experience. I strongly believe that everything we know as "reasoning" such as math and science and all that jazz are just ideas spawned from the experiences we have.
ReplyDeleteDJ - I can guarantee someone has jumped off a 5-story building, i mean people were jumping off the world trade center buildings when they were coming down.. We learned from these people's experiences. Moral of that story? You jump off a big building, you die :S
I think a lot of our knowledge from experience, such as breaking your arm or getting burnt to getting your heart broke by you first boyfriend/girlfriend. That kind of knowledge you really don't know unless you experience it. But then again it is just as safe to say you get knowledge from reasoning because if you are standing on a bridge you are not going to jump off and it's probably not because you've jumped off a bridge before. It's probably because you figure: "Okay, if I jump off this bridge something severe is going to happen. I'm either going to die (which is more likely) or I will get severely injured which could lead to my death or leave me in a load of pain." So I think knowledge weighs itself out on whether it is experience or reason.
ReplyDeleteI think it's by both, mostly experience. Like touching a stove, you don't touch it because reason because you know you'll get hurt, but it can also be because of experience. We can knowledge from school by both experience and reason. The older we get, the more we learn.
ReplyDeleteI think we mostly learn from experience, but there is some reason to our knowledge. For instance, we've been taught about gravity and what would happen if we jump off a building, so we use logical reasoning to not do it because we know the outcome. On the other hand, as we grow older, the more knowledge we gain about all things in life. If we do something wrong and we have the consequences, we are most likely not going to do it again because we've already had that experience.
ReplyDeleteI think that we gain knowledge from both experience and reason, but I think we gain the most from knowledge because it will stick in our mind longer than listening to reason
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